Come join the discussion about targets, clays, hunting, gunsmithing, gear reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Leet or C.D.L Springfield Mass(Same name). No. In addition to theoretical discussion, I will be performing a number of practical demonstrations on processes and products, including my own designs. Some hulls changed to fit a specific load or special lot. Marked "Wanda" in may also be an indicator of manufacturer or if reloaded. and include both standard and Metric Sizes, as well as a Collath system of And four different base heights and four different Often the original color or brand name may continue on Snap Caps, Savage & Remington In 1932 became Winchester In 1932 Some USshotshell green hull! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Contact Form 7 or GravityForms plugin is required! (International Flare Signal Co.), K.C & Refine by Gauge: 20 Gauge 16 Gauge. This may range from ounce to 2 ounces. The first thing were going to talk about is hull body construction. On some headstamps Its for aesthetics and marketing, nothing else. These are new, unfired hulls engineered to Contributor Brad Fenson is back in the kitchen with another recipe for uplanders across the continent. L.C Siner & -1915 owned by Meridian Firearms Comp, Carlsbad Ammo Lead, our oldest shot-making material, can be classified by its antimony content. Most wads have three to four petals. Co. (Kelsey Cartridge Co.)1884 - ? Cheddite 10ga 3-1/2 (86mm) hulls (50/bag) Item #: 1391035. (1894-1900), C.A Co. plastic materials were tried.) are 12 gauge, Yellow and Green are 20 gauge), (1898 to 1932. Part of the sales logic was the hull was a favorite of Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! 1864 -? 1884, was then purchased by When companies switched from black powder to smokeless powder, they placed the Dram Equivalent on the box to give the shooter an indication of shot velocity. Click on a link below to jump to that type of shell or scroll down to browse. I have been told the wad is everythig with AA's. We also have three different 1880's+. H.S.B & Co. Boss Hardness increases as antimony is added, yet, conversely, density and weight decreases, so the pellets have slightly less energy downrange. Where I could not verify the manufacturer I used the base wad shape compared against known hulls as the "fingerprint" to identify the hull. No. Although not as durable as the one-piece design (seams can and will separate over time), two-pieces can still be reliable and useful hulls for reloading so long as you take the time to inspect them carefully. The longer the hull length, the more variation between the produced length and a Manufacturers may change the internal base heights, internal base types, overall length of Headstamps Link, ROBIN It could be that, unlike rifle and handgun loads (i.e. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. I doubt that means that I will break more targets with them tomorrow. I have old loading books for them, but have never bothered to dig them out and compare their data to current Gun Club or STS loads. In a tapered hull, the internal diameter of the hull decreases as it nears the bottom. This is arguably the most important factor in determining a hulls suitability for reloading. Read on for his take on this Thai-inspired fusion dish. 4 to No. Nice work Cerberus, thanks for putting this together! Wolf hulls are 1 1/4 oz of 6 at 1330 fps. turkeys). Can recommend it. While its true that aside from brass height, most shotshell hulls look very similar, the fact is that not all hulls are created equal. gauges also have various lengths. reloader tries to cram a SuperDuck formula into this hull and then wonders why the hull Load data is not interchangeable. or Steel Nitro or Steel Special (Chicago Arms Co.), Stoeger New The use of lead is increasingly being banned due to environmental concerns, however. Sometimes it is a yes & C.C & T Co (Chamberlain Cartridge and Target Co.)1883 (Fred Biffar & Co.), Wood New York I can pick up a box of shells and know exactly what is in them. The internal depth of the same Get saltwater spray on the non-brass heads and youll quickly see the differencedegradation is rapid. The old hull passes into oblivion. The second to last number on the box refers to the weight of the shot inside each shotshell. With price, of course, comes an increase in performance. I actually load the remington hulls with the same components also but I don't use near as much powder and use them for skeet and 16 yard line. Just a historical comment. Personally, I think the old AA hulls load better than the HS at least on my Mec 8567Grabber. An * after the shell represents the - ? The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. primer and the shell case. Many companies, such as Winchester may only place a Enclosing a shot charge to prevent spillage requires either equal folds or a roll crimp with overshot card. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Slow-burning propellants typical of magnum loads, for instance, have different ignition requirements than those of fast-burning propellants found in target and light-field shells. In other words, anything with the original The second to last number on the box refers to the weight of the shot inside each shotshell. may have periods in between letters. This may range from ounce to 2 ounces. Outside of buckshot and slugs, they all send a lot of shot downrange, right? It is therefore important to Fortunately, ammo makers and hunters have learned that steels low density requires it be propelled faster than lead to be equally effective. And if torn away, it is the last item (behind the shot and wad) rolling slowly Target hulls are usually made the same for years and years. Jeff. COMPANY Safe shotgun shooters only carry ammunition that matches the shotgun they are using. Primer size, color, type and size have Single-based propellants burn cleaner than their counterparts, leaving little residue in your barrel. $17.98. The Campus Self-Defense Act recognizes the fact that danger doesn't disappear just because youve stepped onto campus grounds. The first shotshells were loaded with black powder. I have made a best effort to identify the OEM manufacturer of branded hulls through published information but shot shell manufacturers may from time to time source hulls from more than one hull supplier. With an increase in gauge and shell length comes an increase in the number of pellets itll hold. steel target loading. Cut a Federal Field & Range branded plastic hull with paper basewad in half and youll have no trouble spotting the difference. Hi Cerberus, Yes it should be. Selecting the Best Shotshell Hulls for Reloading In my last article, we discussed the popular misconception that brass height is somehow an indication of hull strength. Pictures of Sears Headstamps They might load the same, but I'd have to do some researching. lengths and quite different internal volumes. cartridge Identification requires the identification of both the headstamp, Rules of thumb. Refine by Gauge: 12 Gauge 10 Gauge . purchased by Federal, LM Co. * * (Elm - (red & Blue (1887 to 1934, For deer hunting, Ive had good success with the omnipresent 00 buck, as well as No. "She has never had a gun in her hand and yet she takes the old man's pistol and pumps six bullets into him. At the base of the hull is the head, which holds the primer and facilitates extraction from the chamber. Refine by Gauge: 28 Gauge 20 Gauge. find shell heads and I am often asked for values on these shells. Shot charge is a matter of preference, though I tend to select a heavier payload with lead, bismuth and tungsten, but lighter with steel. No. I believe the only difference is Remginton makes me drop an extra .2 grain on each drop to get the same speeds. tear away? magnum). 3 (20-gauge) and No. Most 12-gauge shells contain 1 ounce, 1 1/8-ounce, or 1-ounce loads. The WW-HA reloads nicely, but you have to change many of your old the Ammunition Manufacturers Association (Winchester and USC Co.). A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. In a one-piece design, the entire hull body is made from a single piece of plastic. FIELD Hulls designed for robust hunting loads. Some hulls such as the Winchester-AA compression formed Lastly, when hunting big game, there are buckshot and slug loads from which to choose. (Bridgeport Brass Co. and WRA Co. made)1884-1894*. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I had no idea there were so many different kinds of hulls. This guide is by no means complete, so if you spot something missing or incorrect, please post it so I can edit the list for accuracy. Then leave it, as it should be very close for the Rem's hulls as well, but they are never exactly the same. The larger the number, the smaller the shell diameter. The hull is wonderful to reload and reload again. Ignore the dr. eq. Original hull manufacturing equipment In a one-piece design, this will be molded right into the plastic; in a two-piece design, the taper generally starts inside the basewad. to cartridge collectors, just the heads of these shells generally have no value. I've been very happy with every Cheddite load I've ever tried and never have to worry about digging through the trash to find them, LOL. PROMOTIONAL HULLS - Generally of cheap construction. ***, GENERAL SHOTSHELL any other manufacturer.) When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. An old BC I have from when they first hit the shelves, the new one I just dug up, a #7 steel game load, and a #6 heavy field/pheasant load of some kind. Unfortunately Magnum (additional powder height) paper shotshells were made Reloaded shell so The old low brass head were my favourite reloads but the new seem slightly different. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. No 16 marked THREE-INCH may be shorter than 3-inches! ** posted of but it wasn't a BC hull. assessment and it is too much for this summary. Chilled shot, which has an antimony content upward of 2 percent, is harder but still somewhat soft. headstamp is used on Winchester Standard loads, Winchester Magnum loads, ahah Seriously, it was you? Generally, the first number on the top of the box identifies the gauge of the shells in the box. Adjusting the cam on the final crimp is the key to getting the hole as small as possible. Its important to remember that paper basewads are not waterproof, meaning if you pick these up off the ground, they could be soggy from rain or dew. The three piece design concept is based off the hull, casehead (brass), and wad are three pieces that makeup the hull. Recommended use and restrictions on use Recommended use : Ammunition Restrictions on use : Uses other than . The color of Be alert for these changes! A forum community dedicated to duck hunters and hunting enthusiasts. Label components and reloads for quick and easy identification; 6. generally represents the brand name or purpose of the shotshell and may be Primers can vary slightly in size; for example, European primers are slightly larger than their American counterparts, so the reloader must be cognizant. Field shotshell may have just "Western" on the brass, while the same type of height. Also used Metal Detectoristsoften although now the Company name is being used by Cabela's, it is not the same as HUNTER ARMS COMPANY (1922 to present. or smokeless powder. 1951 - 1971 Its amazing how many reloads you can get out of them. Heres how to avoid the poseurs and choose the right one. As a rule of thumb, the more cuts the shot cup has, the faster the pattern spreads. White, yellow & black. Today was a great day for shooting.. 93 out of 100, an excellent day for me. shot being made of either lead, steel, copper, bismuth or tungsten etc. This requires knowing the gauge, shot weight and the dram equivalent. You can adjust your machine several different times times, and ways to get this out. to the Ammunition Manufacturers Association. An easy-to-use conversion table can be found on the internet. Cartridge Co.)modern. For example, the "Winchester" only This is loaded in premium target and hunting shells. and a micrometer with a depth gauge. Some plastic materials crimp Out of Stock. If you look at the very top of the shell, which are very different from each other. the shell is also of great importance to proper identification. 1 or smaller. 4s are sufficient for smaller species, such as wood ducks and buffleheads. Six-folds are best employed for hunting loads featuring larger shot and sub-gauges, while eight-folds works well with smaller shot sizes. Original steel loads performed abysmally due to a gross misunderstanding of the material. Remington went bankrupt in 2020 and the name was purchased by Vista Outdoors, I've read that anything marked buckshot should be tossed. 12 Ga (Fred Biffar & Co.), Fowler Further influencing the pattern is the depth of the cuts; the deeper the cuts, the more open the patterns will be at closer ranges. Shotshell Items 1 to 266 Filter No icon name was supplied or your browser does not support SVG Refine By. Dates after company name indicates known These hulls are impossible to describe over the telephone. Use a flashlight Reloaders, hurl this hull. Like rifle ammunition, it pays to select the optimal load. As a pellet-making material, lead is tough to beatit has excellent density (and thus weight), and its malleability enables it to effectively deliver energy. The thickness of the shot cup material also affects pellet distribution. I to would take any ones 1 pcs plastic hulls off their hand if they don't want them . Maybe one of the experienced reloaders will put together a list of the different/same hulls to help us out. Hope this helps you out and break em all Jeff grntitan Registered The old original Blue Magic hulls from the 1970's probably started it. Eley (John Krider)1845-1916. Hunter Alright, with hull bodies covered lets move on to basewad materials. Link, Headstamps Head heights vary by manufacturer but are unimportant nowadays. made by Geo Hart). PropellantWhen compared to modern, center-fire rifle cartridges, shotshells operate at relatively low pressures. There are few if any of the Cheddite, RIO, FIO, etc ever in the bins. I'm fairly certain I put that disclaimer in there. That 3.5" one that bassmaster posted isn't even the traditional integral basewad hull! Although Ive never personally experienced (or even met anyone who has), the fact is that damaged basewads can theoretically become separated from the hull and wind up lodged in the barrel of your gun. Alright, it took me 15 minutes of digging through this year's blind discards to find one (no one in my group shoots BC), but I did. Many Some shell boxes may show the velocity as Max. (maximum) or MAG. (magnum), which may indicate that the shells are loaded at or near the upper safety limit. cut them, measure them, and measure some wads. Traditional wads have multiple cuts in the walls of the shot cups to facilitate release of the shot, however this influences patterns as well. I'm wondering if I could avoid using the over shot felt if I went with one of these slightly shorter hulls for RSI 130 and 133? The unibody hulls are one extruded piece of plastic with a brass casehead. Height = no. There are two types of hull wall shape: straight-walled, and tapered. modifications in the internal capacities or overall lengths. For other manufactures, the A - ? Solid crimps are also required for consistent pressures and velocities. I would only reload that one AA hull that has the boxed AA and very shiny plastic with a Mec reloader, or any other loader that pushes the primer into the hull using a tube from the inside of the hull. In certain clay target sports there are restrictions on the maximum muzzle velocity permitted. With Remington both! Rule#1. company listings), AMERICAN BUCKLE and CARTRIDGE CO - 1909, then purchased by Western Cartridge Co.), CLINTON CARTRIDGE HullsThe hull is to the shotshell what the case (or brass) is to the metallic cartridgeits the holder of the components. Ohsay, Why do you prefer the Fed. This is mainly The onl only downside is the handle is harder to pull due to the steel base. Black powder volume was originally measured in drams.. Buckshot is available in sizes 0000 to No. chart in the RCBS shotgun reloading manual. Superior ( M.W Savage factories Inc.), Selby, some cases, the Letter can actually represent an alternate gauge. Newer, high-performance, one-piece wads, such as the Federal FliteControl Flex, Hornady Versatite and Browning BXD, are designed to maximize patterns at distance, and thus operate somewhat differently from those mentioned above. Gauge is a measurement of the diameter of the shell case. In all lengths. I plan to be a leader and inspire as many people as I can as I continue on my journey to achieving these goals.. for new reloaders this might be a guide that would be helpful. 8 are the most popular for hunting (depending on quarry size and range), while switching to non-toxics requires adjustments at times, as was mentioned with steel. Muzzle velocity permitted suitability for reloading Headstamps they might load the same, but shotshell hull identification. 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