[2], In 1791 James Power, an innkeeper from Dublin, established a small distillery at his public house at 109 Thomas St., Dublin. Understanding the church. Have a good one. top off with chilled pulpy orange juice, AND stir lightly .. Now, go have some grappa with an espresso this evening. Since the closure of the John's Lane distillery, many of the distillery buildings were demolished. This is part of a long standing agreement from the old IDL days. According to everyone Ive spoken with on the subject, you only really find this debate in the States, where Irish-American support of the Republic can sometimes be blind and often fueled by the very product were speaking of. I should have thought of other whisk(e)y cocktails when typing that last thought. Click here to learn how to make this and other drinks for a slushie machine! @Burnsy and Andrew: I dont drink Guiness or Jameson (for those particular reasons) I drink Paddys or Powers Whiskey and Murphys Stout!!!! He said, no, Im Catholic, but I was born and raised in the town of Bushmills! There are some amazing ones, FYI, I will leave it at that. I love Redbreast and always have a bottle about, but based on some comments here Ill definitely be picking up a bottle of Powers Gold Label. Such crap why are all these experts so called Irishmen living in US. [8] After expansion, output at the distillery rose to 700,000 gallons per annum, and by the 1880s, had reached about 900,000 gallons per annum, at which point the distillery covered over six acres of central Dublin, and had a staff of about 300 people.[3][1]. Arthur Guinness was a Protestant and a Unionist. Not that it really matters. This is now a historical landmark. All of it. @Darby )Gill: What a load of nonsense! There are many places in the States where old ideas hold fast including the brand of Ouisge Beatha you drink. Whiskey is Catholic. Shortly after reading this post I dropped by Mortons to see a bartender friend. It is a distinct and beautiful expression of the craft. there was thought to be up towards 25 distilleries in this town at one time. My mother, an Irish protestant spoke hatred against the Catholics. Fathers side Ulster.ancestors to America ca 1719. So, which Irish whiskey is Catholic? As the Protestants had pretty much a stranglehold over all shipping in the country, they refused to ship Dew in favor of the Protestant-produced Jameson. In Ireland theyd drink either, but rarely had enough money for more than a pint o the local beer. As a proud Corkonian, I feel the need to set the record straight. [3][1] The distillery, which had an output of about 6,000 gallons in its first year of operation,[4] initially traded as James Power and Son, but by 1822 had become John Power & Son,[1] and had moved to a new premises at John's Lane, a side street off Thomas Street. And as you can check from the email address I come from Finland, a protestant country. Protestant whiskey is typically made in Northern Ireland, while Catholic whiskey is made in the Republic of Ireland. Although, when faced with only Jameson and Bushmills, I will usually go for the Bushmills. In a TALL glass.one shot of There is a rivalry, to be sure, but it is all about business, and not about religion. I come from an island which has been called the most Irish place outside of Ireland and weve had our papist-loyalist troubles in the past, where they will remain. Irish whiskey is only good for shots. , Do note that the greatest tv show of all time, The Wire, always showed the Baltimore cops ordering Jameson in the bars, and the hero, McNulty, becomes indignant when only Bushmills is available at a partys open bar ( I guess most of the cops were Irish Catholic ), so traditions prevailed. Like Jameson, it is blended whiskey, some combination of pure pot-still whiskey with column-still grain whiskey (allegedly 70% pure pot still to 30% grain). Sweeter, rich with barley, and perfect with one ice cube. [11], In 1961, a Coffey still was installed in John's Lane Distillery, allowing the production of vodka and gin, in addition to the testing of grain whiskey for use in blended whiskey. But in Falls Road and Shankill Road it is not really about religion, is it? His policies were considered heavily pro-Catholic. Powers is my number one as the every day Irish whiskey of choice. He said he was going to spend 90% of it on women and Irish whiskey and the other 10% he was going to waste! and IRELAND vs SCOTLAND!! I always love showing up with a gallon jug of pre-mixed margaritas for the party, so Ive. Bushmills was my first taste of Irish Whiskey. To comment on a few posts above: I am of Irish descent and remember hearing the Protestant Whiskey comments as a kid growing up in New England(I am 50 now). In all the pubs in NYC, no one seemed to really care that I noticed from either side of the bar. Slainte. Jameson was pretty much founded in 1780 when John Jameson a Scottish guy purchased the Bow Street Distillery, which at the time was one of the biggest distilleries in Ireland. Just got back from Dublin yesterday & loved reading the post & all the comments here. Whoever owns Paddys also owns one of these bigger brands and wont export to the US because they know they would cannibalize their own market share. I usually drink my whiskey neat but would anyone be able to recommend an Irish whiskey cocktail/mixed drink that doesnt included coffee or a green liquid? We were servedcorned beef and cabbage with California wine and a shot of Paddy cut with Baileys after dinner. It was largely untouched by the Troubles and paramilitaries. All in all meaning, were I to have gone to Ireland to visit, my relatives would probably have been more confused than was I. I would wager that half the comments are from people that have never been to Irelandif I drink vodka does this make me a communist -no! The difference between the two has to do with the history of whiskey production in Ireland. The big difference between the two whiskies has nothing to do with religion, which is silly and, in some respects, rather ignorant. . Corned beef as it exists today is an industrial product which was created during the British Industrial Revolution, with production centred around Ireland. OK, OK, can be pretty good and certainly much cheaper. The Fair Employment Commission gave Bushmills a clean bill of health. Believe in the Trinity of God. Tullamore Dew, rendered in most branding as Tullamore D.E.W. A great whiskey. When I lived in Providence, there was a lot of Powers drinking going on. Does anyone know why these bottles were over there ? It wasnt an issue about who owns what. One happens to be located in a majority Protestant area and one located in a majority Catholic area, big deal! You can see why I am confused. @Allen: I think it show more the bigoted nature of your tour guide than it does Bushmills. Said to be the favorite of the Emerald Isle too. Porn S, Eugene, Oregon friends! Funny. Whiskey hasnt got a religion. Cake I will be at Ninkasis B, Thanks for having me this morning to talk about ou, Last night someone was like oh wow I didnt t, HAHAHAHA Thank you @makersmark and @whisky_in_mai_, Thank you @traveloregon for having us on the start, Over the years, people have come to associate us w, We feel like most of you who have visited our litt, Ive always been one of those people who thought, http://www.winemag.com/Web-2013/2013-Spirit-of-the-Year-Bushmills/, Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 United States License, Another Figoli Quinn Website (Digital Ocean). Go figure . I noticed a little uncertainty about spelling in the story. Been sipping since I was a wee-lad and have tried lots of whiskey with leanings towards both Irish whiskey and Single malt Scotches. These ideas still run deep and there are still a lot of untrue things people believe about Catholics. The Protestant Reformation was a religious, social, economic, and political revolution that was sparked when a Catholic monk named Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses to the door of his local . And it was always welcomed as a special Balkan business bestowal, to grease whatever wheels needed turning. Well, being of Scots-descent, Ill take one of each. Despised it. I think Irish whiskey is like Scotch, meant for sipping, not mixing. Redbreast makes for good sipping but for my budget Powers is my standby. But The spelling of whisk(e)y is actually a bit up in the air as far as that pesky e goes. They also bottle Powers & Paddys as well. I even have taken a liking to Bushmills Irish Honey when Im in a cocktail mood.Not being Irish and not wanting to get political. [4] At the time of his visit, the distillery was home to five pot stills, two of which with capacities of 25,000 gallons, were amongst the largest ever built. Dont fall for those expensive effete offerings. (typically with the dots de-emphasised using colour and font size), is a brand of Irish whiskey produced by William Grant & Sons. I drink it often . When I explained this myth to customers in Ireland they all had a good laugh. 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Wexford, This page was last edited on 15 February 2023, at 23:21. Spose its kinda like Rangers (hoik-phew) and Celtic FC really. In 1841, John Power, grandson of the founder was awarded a baronetcy, a hereditary title. Ill have to try a Manhattan next. 2nd line was bottling Jameson. Big thank you to reader Jonathan for providing this informative link about this. The old make, which we drank with our luncheon, was delicious, and finer than anything we had hitherto tasted. 1. Cant wait to find out. ** So, I figured then maybe I was Protestant Irish? Im trying one at a time to see what I prefer. Memories. Many of these came from the grain mills along the Bush River, where the current distillery stands today. Today in Trader Joes, the checker looked at my bottle of Bushmills and then at me and asked, Catholic or Protestant? I had never heard that one before. Yup, only the americans give a shit about this stuff anymore. Currently, I go though a case of Jameson for every bottle of Bushmills that we sell at our bar. The widely-accepted Irish-American version is that Jameson is Catholic whiskey and Bushmills is Protestant whiskey. This was a long term plan but theyve brought it forward by about 8-10 years. Ireland is %110 united in whiskey. Ive never even seen a bottle of Paddys (although I havent really been making an exhaustive search). Redbreast was a recent taste and I liked that a lot. 2. Paddy is pretty readily available in the New York Metro Area, but Ive never seen it since I left for warmer climes. Interesting and often amusing reading of so many perspectives. Soon after, in a bold move, Irish Distillers decided to close all of their existing distilleries, and to consolidate production at a new purpose-built facility in Midleton (the New Midleton Distillery) alongside their existing Old Midleton Distillery. Never been a fan of the Powers. The town of Bushmills is a black hole. However, this is just a rumor, but I did hear it from a pretty reliable source in the industry back in Ireland. My hat is off to you, for your spookily informative collection of posts. I do believe Irishness & Irish politics is whitewashed for Americans and presented from a certain political viewpoint. These two fine whiskeys should be enjoyed in a glass and not on some pseudo-religious podium. There were licenses to distill granted in and around the Bushmills area in 1608. Some of the comments here are totally rediculous. My grandmother preferred Bushmills (on ice, with a large splash of water). Had drinks in the Irish Embassy (in Korea) as an invited Englishman. What a great treat. Bushmills didnt support the Black & Tans anymore than Jamesons supported the IRA! Prefer the Irish whiskeys but never met a single malt I didnt savor. You wouldnt really understand the depth of the situation. The episodes of violence associated with both Protestant and Catholic troops in the . I even stayed in what was one of the hotbed cities during the troubles. Instead, American Catholics drew exten sively from an earlier movement launched by Father Mathew, a Catholic friar in Ireland.1 This article analyzes the ways in which lay Catholics adapted temperance 1. He said Jameson trucks it up there when Jameson is at capacity, and Bushmills has the resources to do it. neat, I take Jameson if Bushmills is not available. The Catholic and Protestant Reformations established long-lasting effects within the religious world. In the mean time, the closest I can get to Ireland is my Bushmills and Guinness at night, and Kerrygold butter on toast for breakfast. The root of this myth lies in the fact that Bushmills is located in the predominately Protestant and still British Northern Ireland. The truth of the matter is, the age-old faux-pas of ordering Bushmills for fear of supporting English aggression and offending the Republic of Ireland is about as Irish as corned beef which is to say, not very Irish at all but rather Irish-American (Sorry, kids, corned beef is a Jewish invention). They are just businesses making whiskey. Your grandfather may have lost friends back in the early 20th century to the Black & Tans and im sorry to hear that, but guess what? The date 1608 listed all over the Bushmills bottle is not only the date The King of England allowed distilling to take place in Northern Ireland it is also the date the plantation of Ulster began. Im coming to celebrate Repeal Da, Fall book drop. I was born in West Belfast and I can tell you, that most Catholics prefer Jamesons. Clicking on a product takes you to Amazon, which helps me keep this site running, so thank you in advance! Hats off to all the others. Brands! Powers Gold Label is also wonderful and dirt cheap. Drink is one thing that unites Ireland it is shocking to see that some, primarily in the US, try to politicise it. I see. Enough said I thought, and bought the next round. For the record I have had many a session all over the island both North and south. I live in a small town in Texas, I am Catholic and I am treated as if I am a leper. But I must say my absolute preference is Jameson 18 yr old. Bushmills, which refused to hire Catholics for many years has been actively trying to recruit Catholic employees of late, because the pay a wee tax penalty for lack of diversity in their workforce. . What a treat. From the outset of the Reformation, Luther and his associates had fiercely proclaimed the Christian's obligation to "be subject to the governing authorities," asserting, with Saint Paul, that "the powers that be are ordained by God . There was a big banner from the 80s in one of our meeting rooms that read boycott bushmills they discriminate because they were from the north they didnt use to hire catholic workers. Jameson Is Catholic and Bushmills Is Protestant This is one of the myths encountered all the time, since Bushmills is located in predominantly Protestant Northern Ireland and Jameson is produced in the heavily Catholic Republic of Ireland. Required fields are marked *. Jameson was a Dublin Whidkey but it was Protestant. Contrary and challenging to the end- does this not sum up the Celtic spirit, whatever its origin or leaning? [1] In recent years, several single pot still variants have been relaunched under the Powers label. About one-in-five (18%) chose "the Great Crusade," while 6% said "the Great Schism" and 5% said "the French Revolution We were up near Bushmills this past summer during our Ireland vacation (on our way from Belfast to The Causeway) and our Tipperary-based guide recommended not stopping there due to the companys historic treatment of Catholics. So by your logic it is fair to say that Every time you raise a glass of American Bourbon you are in essence raising a glass to an Native American losing his land (and in MOST cases his life) to British/American rule! While were tossing around personal stories, about 20 years ago I met some younger guys from Glasgow at a local pub, and I mentioned how I knew that neither Scotland nor Ireland were altogether warm with England, but I didnt know how the Irish and Scots felt about each other. This kind of stupidity makes us look like clowns in the eyes of most real Irish. Also, what in the heck does Virginia have to do with Kentucky Bourbon??? catholic - from the Greek adjective (katholikos), meaning "universal". Fact: the worst atrocities in the Irish struggle for freedom were perpetrated by the Irish on each other and were not likely fueled by religious affiliation but the politics of the time. [1][2] A gold label adorned each bottle and it was from these that the whiskey got the name Powers Gold Label. Help! Id suggest Tullamore Dew, it was founded by Catholics and is still owned by a nice Irish Catholic company. Though Jameson is currently distilled in lovely Cork, it was actually founded and first distilled in Dublin. A few years ago during a trip to Ireland we had dinner at the home of some relatives. The overwhelming majority of people in Ireland just want to get on with their lives, as they have always done and forget about this petty conflict. ** TONIGHT!! All Irish whiskey is great. As the rain pummels the ground here in the Pacific Northwest, a little window of blue sky nestled between two dark clouds in the neighboring distance makes me wish I were watching the rain fall from across a dark ocean, my little Caribbean fishing, Update! I was wondering when someone would ask this question. The new bottling hall is also taking shape even though itll be a while before the on site whiskey will be bottled. Im not sure if this is truth or myth but I cannot drink Bushmills due to there even being a chance of truth in that because of the awful stories I heard about those F&[emailprotected]$&$ convicts (the black and tans) the Brits let loose on the people of Ireland. The fun is is teasing those who do not know/care to understand. Robber jumps out of an alley, holds up a gun, and says, Are you a Protestant or a Catholic? Man says, Neither, Im a jew. Robber thinks for a moment, says, but are you a Protestant Jew or a Catholic Jew?, are you a Protestant or a Catholic? 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